Conor Moore and Carla Mendez | PantherNOW Staff
Disclaimer: This article was fact checked to correct certain claims, particularly those made about the 2020 election.
In a live and recorded discussion regarding America’s uncertain future, three MAGA activists – journalist Laura Loomer, student organizer Ryan Fournier and comedian Alex Stein – spoke about the “fight for America”, examining a range of topics such as cancel culture, woke, DEI, and former President Donald Trump.
The event on Monday, Oct. 21, hosted by 19-year-old Accounting major, Jacob Giron of the Leaders Talk podcast, sought to bring students and non-students alike into the political fray – less than two weeks out from the election and early voting already underway.
“The reason why I did the event is because I believe there is genuinely a fight happening in America – and I don’t think it’s Republicans versus Democrats, it’s more so good versus evil,” Giron explained, speaking to his motivation for putting the panel and event together. He referenced the power of live events to foster a free dialogue, quoting Tucker Carlson: “You can’t censor a live event.”
Giron pointed out a growing concern between the conservative community with a perceived bias in the media against Trump, asking, “Why is every mainstream media outlet for the most part demonizing this one guy?” He spoke to the rising influence of what he termed a “woke agenda,” reflecting his belief that societal values at large are shifting in ways that do not resonate with all Americans.
“I want to help be that positive swing towards getting people to vote,” Giron said, emphasizing the urgency of engaging the young voters. He highlighted specific issues that he believes warrant attention, including, “the sexualization of kids and our society,” stressing the need for an open dialogue around these topics.
Some groups of students held certain expectations for the event, hoping to see issues important to them discussed by the panel. Julissa Bruzon, a junior majoring in International Business and Marketing with a minor in Sales, expressed her motivation for attending, saying, “I’m here today because I believe that the future of America is in our hands. What we do, what we think about our country, where we want it to head. We are the future of America.
Bruzon emphasized the importance of education in shaping political points of view: “Whatever we do today, will affect our politics in the future. I’m here to educate myself as much as I can.”
Comedian Alex Stein kicked off the event with a comedy routine, poking fun at the current administration.
“A lot of people think Kamala Harris staged a coup to try and get Joe Biden to step down. That’s not actually true. Once Joe Biden got COVID and he realized he couldn’t smell little kids anymore, that’s when he decided to drop out of the election,” said Stein.
“A lot of people are like, we don’t want transgenders in the military. You guys see this? A lot of conservatives say that. False. We need transgenders in the military because they’re scary as hell. They’re mean and they’re not too bad at mass shootings,” he continued, referring to a Facebook post that incorrectly suggested the perpetrator of the recent Georgia mass shooting was transgender.
After his comedy set, Giron interviewed Stein, asking him questions regarding his Christian faith.
“I just think it’s really important that we all have to understand that there is some sort of spiritual nature to our world. It’s not just an accident. There is a God, there is a creator. So if once they hide that, once they convince you that there is no creator, it’s very easy to control you, and that’s what they do,” said Stein.
Stein continued with a statement on how to reach across the political aisle and make peace with those who disagree with you.
“We know people that are going to vote for Kamala Harris. And instead of being like, F U, you idiot, we need to try to come and find some sort of common ground, because that’s the only way you’re going to convince somebody. You have to kill them with kindness,” he said.
Another right-wing influencer, Douglass Mackey, was present and spoke during parts of the Question and Answer section, informing the audience he was going to prison for free-speech related reasons, but did not elaborate fully on why.
Mackey was convicted for conspiring to suppress voter turnout during the 2016 election, discussing ways to “limit black turnout” and described black voters as “gullible”.
Conservative activist Ryan Fournier, co-founder of Students for Trump, followed Stein on the panel. He shared his experience building the organization, which began on X in 2015, noting how “it naturally kicked out into something I never really anticipated.”
Reflecting on his political journey thus far, Fournier shared, “I wanted to be an attorney. I never thought I was going to become a national political figure having to fight for some of the very basic freedoms that all of us would like to enjoy every day – like the Second Amendment.”
“The alternative is someone with no qualifications. Like Alex was saying, [Kamala Harris] got delegates pledged to her,” Fournier said. He referred to the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, noting that some delegates sought to change their votes but were unable to due to procedural constraints.
Despite this, Harris received 99% of the delegate votes at the DNC. Additionally, she served as attorney general, then senator of California before being chosen to serve as vice president.
Fournier framed the upcoming election as a pivotal moment, saying, “It’s either you get another four years of what you just had, or you go back to five years ago of prosperity.” When asked what he believed the next four years would look like if Harris won the presidency, Fournier’s answer was blunt and unvarnished: “Well If I were to paint a picture, I would just put a canvas and throw bird sh*t on it – that would be what four years of Kamala would look like.”
Turning to economic policies, Fournier was asked by PantherNOW whether Trump’s approach to tariffs might ultimately result in American companies bearing the costs and becoming a catalyst to a surge in inflation for consumers.
Fournier explained Trump’s reasoning behind these policies, saying, “One of the reasons he is doing this is because he wants to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. and one of the best ways to do that is by putting pressure on these other nations and making it more expensive for them to bring their product here so then we can in turn build our own factories.”
He continued and said “I think really it’s a temporary thing and it comes to the fair share – China needs to pay their fair share. I wouldn’t worry too much about it.”
Tariffs would not be paid for by China. Tariffs are taxes on domestic firms for importing foreign goods.
After his time with Giron, the event continued with some brief words from the event’s sponsor Marc Anthony Salvat, a real estate agent who spoke about “the mind virus of the radical left.”
Laura Loomer was the last guest to speak at the panel.
When asked about her thoughts on Harris’s introduction as the Democratic candidate and whether it was planned, she responded, “There was some discussion for quite some time about who the Democratic candidate would be. They decided to completely bypass the democratic process and instill a woman who received zero votes – not only in 2020, but also this time around, since she didn’t even participate in the primary process.”
About 81 million Americans voted for Kamala Harris to be vice president during the 2020 elections.
“Kamala is a communist,” asserted Loomer. “We already are experiencing a communist coup in our country and we witnessed that with the stolen election of 2020.”
Despite Loomer’s remarks, third-party and Department of Justice investigations have found no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 elections.
In discussing her support for Trump, Loomer described him as “just as passionate in private as he is in public” and “so generous and humble.” In her view, the stakes of his potential loss loom large. When Giron asked what might happen if Trump does not win, Loomer responded, “The end of this country,” and argued that Harris’s role in the administration was premeditated.
“There is no way in hell that anybody would overwhelmingly vote to elect that woman,” she stated, adding, “We knew they were going to install somebody.” Loomer criticized Harris’s selection as vice president as a decision based on diversity, calling her a “DEI hire.”
“She wasn’t even selected. Alex said she slept her way to the top – that’s right. She gave head to get ahead.” These comments refer to a relationship with former San Francisco mayor Willie Brown she had over 20 years ago.
Expanding on her concerns for the future of the political landscape, Loomer said, “If they can prosecute Donald Trump, if they can terrorize a billionaire and his family, and institute $480,00,00 against him, rig his elections, de-bank, silence, shut him down, try to assassinate him, do you really honestly think they’re going to think twice about banging down your door, jailing you, killing you?”
Loomer contended that the conflict between both parties goes beyond partisanship. Her critiques included a jab at what she saw as permissiveness in Harris’s approach and double standards. She said, “You’re not allowed to say that Kamala Harris gave head to get ahead, but she is allowed to invite a bunch of tr**** Tik Tok stars to take their bras off and shake their t*** on the White House lawn.”
Loomer urged those in the room and conservatives to rally behind Trump, saying, “Even if you don’t like Donald Trump as a person, you have a moral obligation and responsibility to get out and vote for him.” Loomer closed with a comment on how she takes criticism saying, “Everybody has feelings. I don’t like when people say nasty things about me, but you just have to get over it.”
“I’m called far-right because I’m always right,” she concluded.
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